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SirCotare at 19:36, 7 August 2014

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‎The Higher Powers KamiKaravan

Sidusar at 08:48, 10 October 2011

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[[Factions]] is not a formally defined term in Ryzom, so it can be rather ambiguous. It may have the following meanings:

== The [[Higher Powers]] [[File:KamiPvPicon.png|Kami]][[File:KaravanPvPicon.png|Karavan]] ==
In informal speech, [[factions]] usually refers to the [[higher powers]]: the [[Kami]] and the [[Karavan]]. Most often when people use the term [[factions]], this is what they refer to.

This use matches general online games lingo because most games make players chose between two opposing sides referred to as the two factions.

In Ryzom specifically, until recently [[Faction points]] could only be earned with the [[Kami]] and the [[Karavan]], and [[PvP#Factional_PvP|Faction PvP]] was always Kami versus Karavan. This is no longer the case (see below) but the terminology has stuck.

No official ingame source refers to the Kami and Karavan as ''the factions''; they are referred to as ''the higher powers'', ''the religions'' or ''the cults''.

== The [[Higher Powers]] and the [[Nations]] [[File:FyrosPvPicon.png|Fyros]][[File:MatisPvPicon.png|Matis]][[File:TrykerPvPicon.png|Tryker]][[File:ZoraïPvPicon.png|Zoraï]] ==
In addition to the [[higher powers]], [[factions]] may also refer to the 4 [[nations]]; the [[Fyros]], [[Matis]], [[Tryker]] and [[Zoraï]]. The nations may also be referred to as the [[races]] or the ''civilizations''.

This use stems from the [[Faction points]] and [[PvP#Factional_PvP|Faction PvP]], the only two places that the term [[faction]] is used in the game.
*Faction points can only be obtained with the 2 Higher Powers and the 4 Nations.
*Faction PvP can only be done in name of the Higher Powers or the Nations.

== The [[Higher Powers]], the [[Nations]] and the Neutrals [[File:HoministPvPicon.png|Hominist]][[File:MarauderPvPicon.png|Marauder]][[File:TheistPvPicon.png|Theist]][[File:AntitheistPvPicon.png|Antitheist]] ==
From the very beginning, the players who didn't align with any faction and thus remained neutral have often been referred to as the '' third faction'' (in the case of the higher powers) or the ''fifth faction'' (in the case of the civilizations).

This was only complicated further when different kinds of neutral were implemented: [[Hominist]]s who are friendly with all nations, [[Marauders#Player_Marauders|Marauders]] who are hostile to all nations, [[Theist]]s who are friendly with both higher powers and [[Antitheist]]s who are hostile to both higher powers. Al those groups also get their own [[PvP#Factional_PvP|Faction PvP]] icon.

And ofcourse, there are still the neutrals who don't fall into any of those groups. So all in all there are now 6 different neutral factions.

== The [[Higher Powers]], the [[Nations]] and the [[Tribes]] [[File:Greenseed.png|23px|Green Seed]][[File:Duneriderslogo.png|25px|Dune Riders]][[File:Black circle.png|15px|Black Circle]][[File:Corsairslogo.jpg|25px|Corsairs]][[File:Kuild.png|24px|Kuild]] ==
This use of the term [[factions]] stems from the concept of [[fame]], and defines a '''faction''' as "any group players can obtain fame with".

Players can obtain fame with the 2 [[higher powers]], the 4 [[nations]] and the 51 [[tribes]]. However, players can only [[Alignment|align]] themselves with a higher power and a nation.

== Depending on context ==
Lastly, factions may be used to simply refer to the different sides in whatever conflict is currently playing.

For example, the [[Kitin]] might be referred to as a faction, even if players can't get fame with them nor align with them.

The [[Marauders]] also were often referred to as a faction long before players could support them

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 From the very beginning, the players who didn't align with any faction and thus remained neutral have often been referred to as the '' third faction'' (in the case of the higher powers) or the ''fifth faction'' (in the case of the civilizations). It's a matter of opinion whether neutrality is actually a faction or rather the lack of faction.
-This issue was only complicated further when different kinds of neutral were implemented: [[Hominist]]s who are friendly with all nations, [[Marauders#Player_Marauders|Marauders]] who are hostile to all nations, [[Theist]]s who are friendly with both higher powers and [[Antitheist]]s who are hostile to both higher powers. All those groups also get their own [[PvP#Factional_PvP|Faction PvP]] icon.
+This issue was only complicated further when different kinds of neutral were implemented: [[Hominist]]s who are friendly with all nations, [[Theist]]s who are friendly with both higher powers and [[Antitheist]]s who are hostile to both higher powers. [[Marauders#Player_Marauders|Marauders]]  are hostile to all nations sa wela sa to Highers Powers.  [[Rangers]] are also a faction, and are hostile to nobody. Tritonists are neutral too but secret faction (thus RP only) faction.  And of course, there are still the remaining neutrals who don't fall into any of those groups. So all in all there are now 6 different neutral factions.
 == The [[Higher Powers]], the [[Nations]] and the [[Tribes]] [[File:Greenseed.png|23px|Green Seed]][[File:Duneriderslogo.png|25px|Dune Riders]][[File:Black circle.png|15px|Black Circle]][[File:Corsairslogo.jpg|25px|Corsairs]][[File:Kuild.png|24px|Kuild]] ==

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 [[Factions]] is not a formally defined term in Ryzom, so it can be rather ambiguous. It may have the following meanings:

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 This issue was only complicated further when different kinds of neutral were implemented: [[Hominist]]s who are friendly with all nations, [[Marauders#Player_Marauders|Marauders]] who are hostile to all nations, [[Theist]]s who are friendly with both higher powers and [[Antitheist]]s who are hostile to both higher powers. All those groups also get their own [[PvP#Factional_PvP|Faction PvP]] icon.
-And ofcourse, there are still the remaining neutrals who don't fall into any of those groups. So all in all there are now 6 different neutral factions.
+And of course, there are still the remaining neutrals who don't fall into any of those groups. So all in all there are now 6 different neutral factions.
 == The [[Higher Powers]], the [[Nations]] and the [[Tribes]] [[File:Greenseed.png|23px|Green Seed]][[File:Duneriderslogo.png|25px|Dune Riders]][[File:Black circle.png|15px|Black Circle]][[File:Corsairslogo.jpg|25px|Corsairs]][[File:Kuild.png|24px|Kuild]] ==

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 In informal speech, [[factions]] usually refers to the [[higher powers]]: the [[Kami]] and the [[Karavan]]. Most often when people use the term [[factions]], this is what they refer to.
-This use matches general online games lingo because most games make players chose between two opposing sides referred to as the two factions.
+This use matches general online games lingo because most games make players choose between two opposing sides referred to as the two factions.
 In Ryzom specifically, until recently [[Faction points]] could only be earned with the Kami and the Karavan, and [[PvP#Factional_PvP|Faction PvP]] was always Kami versus Karavan. This is no longer the case (see below) but the terminology has stuck.

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 This use matches general online games lingo because most games make players chose between two opposing sides referred to as the two factions.
-In Ryzom specifically, until recently [[Faction points]] could only be earned with the [[Kami]] and the [[Karavan]], and [[PvP#Factional_PvP|Faction PvP]] was always Kami versus Karavan. This is no longer the case (see below) but the terminology has stuck.
+In Ryzom specifically, until recently [[Faction points]] could only be earned with the Kami and the Karavan, and [[PvP#Factional_PvP|Faction PvP]] was always Kami versus Karavan. This is no longer the case (see below) but the terminology has stuck.
-No official ingame source refers to the Kami and Karavan as ''the factions''; they are referred to as ''the higher powers'', ''the religions'' or ''the cults''.
+Though it is often used so informally, no official source refers to the Kami and Karavan as ''the factions''; they are referred to as ''the higher powers'', ''the religions'' or ''the cults''.
 == The [[Higher Powers]] and the [[Nations]] [[File:FyrosPvPicon.png|Fyros]][[File:MatisPvPicon.png|Matis]][[File:TrykerPvPicon.png|Tryker]][[File:ZoraïPvPicon.png|Zoraï]] ==
-In addition to the [[higher powers]], [[factions]] may also refer to the 4 [[nations]]; the [[Fyros]], [[Matis]], [[Tryker]] and [[Zoraï]]. The nations may also be referred to as the [[races]] or the ''civilizations''.
+In addition to the [[higher powers]], [[factions]] may also refer to the 4 [[nations]]; the [[Fyros]], [[Matis]], [[Tryker]] and [[Zoraï]]. The nations may also be referred to as the [[homin_races|races]] or the ''civilizations''.
-This use stems from the [[Faction points]] and [[PvP#Factional_PvP|Faction PvP]], the only two places that the term [[faction]] is used in the game.
+This use stems from the [[Faction points]] and [[PvP#Factional_PvP|Faction PvP]], the only two places where the term [[faction]] is used in the game.
-*Faction points can only be obtained with the 2 Higher Powers and the 4 Nations.
+*Faction points can only be obtained with the 2 higher powers and the 4 nations.
-*Faction PvP can only be done in name of the Higher Powers or the Nations.
+*Faction PvP can only be done in name of the higher powers or the nations.
 == The [[Higher Powers]], the [[Nations]] and the Neutrals [[File:HoministPvPicon.png|Hominist]][[File:MarauderPvPicon.png|Marauder]][[File:TheistPvPicon.png|Theist]][[File:AntitheistPvPicon.png|Antitheist]] ==
-From the very beginning, the players who didn't align with any faction and thus remained neutral have often been referred to as the '' third faction'' (in the case of the higher powers) or the ''fifth faction'' (in the case of the civilizations).
+From the very beginning, the players who didn't align with any faction and thus remained neutral have often been referred to as the '' third faction'' (in the case of the higher powers) or the ''fifth faction'' (in the case of the civilizations). It's a matter of opinion whether neutrality is actually a faction or rather the lack of faction.
-This was only complicated further when different kinds of neutral were implemented: [[Hominist]]s who are friendly with all nations, [[Marauders#Player_Marauders|Marauders]] who are hostile to all nations, [[Theist]]s who are friendly with both higher powers and [[Antitheist]]s who are hostile to both higher powers. Al those groups also get their own [[PvP#Factional_PvP|Faction PvP]] icon.
+This issue was only complicated further when different kinds of neutral were implemented: [[Hominist]]s who are friendly with all nations, [[Marauders#Player_Marauders|Marauders]] who are hostile to all nations, [[Theist]]s who are friendly with both higher powers and [[Antitheist]]s who are hostile to both higher powers. All those groups also get their own [[PvP#Factional_PvP|Faction PvP]] icon.
-And ofcourse, there are still the neutrals who don't fall into any of those groups. So all in all there are now 6 different neutral factions.
+And ofcourse, there are still the remaining neutrals who don't fall into any of those groups. So all in all there are now 6 different neutral factions.
 == The [[Higher Powers]], the [[Nations]] and the [[Tribes]] [[File:Greenseed.png|23px|Green Seed]][[File:Duneriderslogo.png|25px|Dune Riders]][[File:Black circle.png|15px|Black Circle]][[File:Corsairslogo.jpg|25px|Corsairs]][[File:Kuild.png|24px|Kuild]] ==
-This use of the term [[factions]] stems from the concept of [[fame]], and defines a '''faction''' as "any group players can obtain fame with".
+This use of the term [[factions]] stems from the concept of [[fame]], and defines a [[faction]] as "any group that players can obtain fame with". The term is rarely used this way in practice.
 Players can obtain fame with the 2 [[higher powers]], the 4 [[nations]] and the 51 [[tribes]]. However, players can only [[Alignment|align]] themselves with a higher power and a nation.
 == Depending on context ==
-Lastly, factions may be used to simply refer to the different sides in whatever conflict is currently playing.
+Lastly, [[factions]] may be used to simply refer to the different sides in whatever conflict is currently playing.
 For example, the [[Kitin]] might be referred to as a faction, even if players can't get fame with them nor align with them.
 The [[Marauders]] also were often referred to as a faction long before players could support them