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		<title>Dorothée: Created page with &quot; == Old == ===Faction=== For Faction, you have three choices; Kami, Karavan, and Neutral. The one you decide will affect which TPs you can/can't get, which sid...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot; == Old == ===&lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Faction&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Faction&quot;&gt;Faction&lt;/a&gt;=== For &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Faction&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Faction&quot;&gt;Faction&lt;/a&gt;, you have three choices; &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Kami&quot; title=&quot;Kami&quot;&gt;Kami&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Karavan&quot; title=&quot;Karavan&quot;&gt;Karavan&lt;/a&gt;, and Neutral. The one you decide will affect which TPs you can/can&amp;#039;t get, which sid...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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== Old ==&lt;br /&gt;
===[[Faction]]===&lt;br /&gt;
For [[Faction]], you have three choices; [[Kami]], [[Karavan]], and Neutral. The one you decide will affect which TPs you can/can't get, which side you will fight on if/when you activate your FvF tag, and which temple guards will/won't attack you (the guards will attack when you have below -50 [[Fame]] with them) (Note: There is only one temple in each land - they are not in any towns and you will usually only need to go there to declare your alignment and buy items with Honor Points)&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Race]] your character actually is has no effect on which [[Faction]] you can or can't join - any character can join any [[Faction]]. All characters start off neutral and with a starting [[Fame]] with each [[Faction]] - starting [[Fame]] is the only effect your character's [[Race]] has.&lt;br /&gt;
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{| Border=1 width=75% cellpadding=2 &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!  &lt;br /&gt;
! [[Fyros]] !! [[Matis]] !! [[Tryker]] !! [[Zorai]] &lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background:#FFCC99; color:black; text-align:center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
![[Kami]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 10 || -20 || -10 || 20&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background:#FFCCFF; color:black; text-align:center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Karavan]]&lt;br /&gt;
| -10 || 20 || 10 || -20&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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A Neutral player can have a maximum of 50 [[Fame]] with either [[Faction]] (ie they can have -100 to +50 [[Kami]] and -100 to +50 [[Karavan]]).&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Faction]] aligned player can have a maximum of +100 [[Fame]] with their chosen [[Faction]] and a maximum of -50 with the other [[Faction]] (ie a [[Kami]]-aligned player can have -100 to -50 [[Karavan]] [[Fame]] and up to +100 [[Kami]] [[Fame]] - if their [[Kami]] [[Fame]] drops below 0 then they will automatically be forced to neutral again - the same goes in reverse for [[Karavan]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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As I've said, everyone starts off Neutral, so if you want to stay that way then skip the rest of this section and go straight to the part about TPs&lt;br /&gt;
To align yourself with a [[Faction]], you will first need a [[Fame]] value of 30 or more with the [[Faction]] you have chosen. You can then head to a temple of that [[Faction]] - there is one temple of each [[Faction]] in every capital zone (Imperial Dunes, Liberty Lake, Witherings, and Majestic Garden) so just ask in /region or /[[Guild]] if you need to find it Once at the temple you will have to speak to one of the NPCs and follow their instructions as they guide you through some simple tasks. Once you've completed everything they ask of you, you're aligned with that [[Faction]] Now the TPs you can buy will have changed from what it was as a Neutral...&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Nation]]===&lt;br /&gt;
As well as being aligned to a [[Faction]], players can also align themselves with a [[Nation]] ([[Tryker]] Federation/[[Fyros]] Empire/[[Matis]] Kingdom/[[Zorai]] Theocracy) - again this is completely seperate to which [[Race]] your character actually is... you can have a [[Zorai]] who is a [[Matis]] citizen or a [[Tryker]]  who is a [[Zorai]] citizen, or whatever.&lt;br /&gt;
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All characters start [[Nation]]-neutral and can have a maximum value of '''+50 [[Fame]] with all of the [[Nation]]s''', and a minimum value of -100 [[Fame]] with all of the [[Nation]]s (ie a [[Nations]]-neutral player may have -100 to +50 [[Fame]] with all of the [[Nation]]s - they are not related) As well as starting [[Nation]]-neutral, characters start with a specific value of [[Fame]] with all of the [[Nation]]s - starting [[Fame]] is the only effect that your character's actual [[Race]] has, but can be easily overcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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{| Border=1 width=75% cellpadding=2 &lt;br /&gt;
|+'''Initial [[Fame]] with'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!'''[[Race]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Fyros]] !! [[Matis]] !! [[Tryker]] !! [[Zorai]] &lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background:#FFCCFF; color:black; text-align:center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Fyros]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 20 || -20 || -10 || 10&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background:#FFCCFF; color:black; text-align:center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Matis]]&lt;br /&gt;
| -20 || 20 || 10 || -10&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background:#FFCCFF; color:black; text-align:center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Tryker]]&lt;br /&gt;
| -10 || 10 || 20 || -20&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background:#FFCCFF; color:black; text-align:center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Zorai]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 10 || -10 || -20 || 20&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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In order to get citizenship of a [[Nation]] and become aligned with them, you must have a [[Fame]] value of at least 30 with that [[Nation]]. You can then go and find the NPC in the capital city of that [[Nation]] (ask in region or guild chat to find out where) and once you have followed their instructions you will be aligned with that [[Race]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Once aligned with a [[Nation]], you will have certain caps on your [[Fame]] values with the [[Nation]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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{| Border=1 width=75% cellpadding=2 &lt;br /&gt;
|+'''Maximum [[Fame]] with'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!'''Chosen [[Nation]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Fyros]] !! [[Matis]] !! [[Tryker]] !! [[Zorai]] &lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background:#FFCCFF; color:black; text-align:center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Fyros]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 100 || 0 || 25 || 75&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background:#FFCCFF; color:black; text-align:center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Matis]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 0 || 100 || 75 || 25&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background:#FFCCFF; color:black; text-align:center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Tryker]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 25 || 75 || 100 || 0&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background:#FFCCFF; color:black; text-align:center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Zorai]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 75 || 25 || 0 || 100&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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The effect of [[Race]] [[Fame]] is the price you will get when you sell something to a merchant of that [[Race]], and which missions an NPC of that [[Race]] will or will not offer you. If you drop below -50 [[Fame]] with a [[Race]], the guards in the towns of that [[Race]] will attack you on sight. You may buy an appartment in any capital town, not just the one you are aligned with. [[Race]] [[Fame]] has no effect on which TPs you may or may not buy.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Guild]]s===&lt;br /&gt;
Just as players can align themselves with a [[Faction]] and a [[Race]], so can [[Guild]]s. A [[Guild]] can be Neutral/[[Kami]]/[[Karavan]], and also Neutral/[[Fyros]]/[[Matis]]/[[Tryker]]/[[Zorai]]. Again, the [[Faction]] alignment has no effect on the [[Race]] alignment, and neither does the location of the [[Guild]]hall - a [[Guild]] may align itself in any combination it likes and may purchase a [[Guild]]hall in any capital city.&lt;br /&gt;
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The alignment of a [[Guild]] determines which [[Homin]]s may or may not join the [[Guild]]. Since this can sometimes be tricky to get your head round (and to explain) I'll explain it in two ways; from the [[Guild]]'s point of view, and from the player's point of view:&lt;br /&gt;
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A character who is [[Faction]] aligned can only enter a [[Guild]] of that [[Faction]].&lt;br /&gt;
A neutral character can join any [[Guild]].&lt;br /&gt;
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2)&lt;br /&gt;
A neutral [[Guild]] can only have neutral characters in it.&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Guild]] which is [[Faction]] aligned may have neutral characters, or characters who are aligned the same as the [[Guild]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The same goes for [[Race]] alignment, but with the [[Race]] instead of the [[Faction]]&lt;br /&gt;
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To align with a [[Faction]] or [[Race]], the [[Guild]] leader must go to an NPC (at the temple of in the capital city, near to the ones for player alignment) and follow the NPCs instructions. Like for players, the [[Guild]] needs to have 30 [[Guild]] [[Fame]]. If the [[Guild]] [[Fame]] drops below 0 with the [[Race]] or [[Faction]] it is aligned with, it will automatically become neutral or [[Race]]-neutral (depending on which [[Fame]] value dropped below 0). Any player who is incompatible with the neutrality of the [[Guild]] (ie any player who is aligned with a [[Faction]] or [[Race]], depending on which [[Fame]] value dropped) will automatically become of Unspecified status (see notes below).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Unspecified status===&lt;br /&gt;
A character or a [[Guild]] in unspecified status is considered as neutral by the game mechanisms. While in this status, you keep your [[Fame]] values unchanged and aren't subject to any cap. However, while in this state, you can't gain or loose [[Fame]]. Additionally, a character can't switch to another status when his [[Guild]] is also in this state.&lt;br /&gt;
If your [[Fame]] was above 50 with a [[Race]] or [[Faction]] when you became unspecified, it will stay at that value, but NPCs will act as if it were 50. When you are unspecified, you should take steps to return to neutrality or alignment (you may have to leave your [[Guild]] to do this).&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Outposts]]===&lt;br /&gt;
The alignment of a [[Guild]] has no effect on which outpost it can take - a [[Guild]] may take any outpost it can&lt;br /&gt;
The alignment of a [[Guild]] has no effect on which drill it can build on an OP it owns - it can build any drill it likes.&lt;br /&gt;
The alignment of a player has no effect on which &amp;quot;outpost craft plans&amp;quot; they can get - they can get whatever they have the skill points for.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[PvP]]===&lt;br /&gt;
Currently there are no &amp;quot;FvF&amp;quot; (Faction vs Faction) zones on [[Atys]], so your alignment currently has no effect on zoned [[PvP]].&lt;br /&gt;
Neutral players cannot activate any [[PvP]] tag - they are always &amp;quot;neutral&amp;quot; in tagged FvF combat.&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone with above +25 fame with a faction ([[Homin Races|Homin Civilisations]] or [[Higher Powers|Higher Powers]]) is no longer considered neutral but &amp;quot;pro&amp;quot; that faction, and can activate their FvF tag for that faction. Also, anyone with below -25 fame is no longer considered neutral but &amp;quot;anti&amp;quot; that faction, and can activate their FvF tag targeting that faction.&lt;br /&gt;
Players who are &amp;quot;pro&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;anti&amp;quot; any faction can activate their FvF tag whenever they wish (according to the associated timers) to participate in tagged FvF combat. You can only attack someone who has a tag of an opposing Faction on; you can't attack neutral players or opposing players without their tag on.&lt;br /&gt;
(Unless ofcourse you attack them under a different kind of [[PvP]], such as in a duel, in the [[Arena]], or in the GvG zones [[Lands of Umbra]] and [[Nexus]]. But these kinds of PvP have nothing to do with fame, faction or alignment.)&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://forums.ryzom.com/showthread.php?t=35113 Description of factional PvP in the patch notes.]&lt;br /&gt;
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Whether you are official aligned with a faction currently has no effect on FvF PvP; only your fame determines whether you are pro, anti, or neutral regarding a faction.&lt;br /&gt;
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Moved from the page [[User:Dorothée|Dorothée]] ([[User talk:Dorothée|talk]]) 12:43, 2 October 2021 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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