Wiki Technical Guide/Comparaison of lists ns and other

Last version 2020-06-15•ᐒ

Here are the namespace value and content (with notes or questions). In short, it's historic (from merges):

DE and EN wikis are close.
FR is very different.
Forge comes from an other wiki (most pages are in FR, EN, DE: but EN is now the "official" one).
And common (host files for all wikis) is very different from others (close to EN).

Names spaces (ns)

Ex of namespaces: Category:, Talk:, User:

To discover them, it seems Heernis used the code {{Special:AllPages|namespace=1}}, adding +1 until reach 105 (event talk). But there's an API tips who show all ns w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=namespaces with the canonical names - for ex:

Common to all

Each ns has it's own talk/Discussion ns,with ns+1. To be brief, no talk here (see more detailed pages) BUT un-usual.

Commons to all:

There's some negative values (for the all 6 wikis): -2 Media and -1 special
Namespace 0 - Main
Namespace 2 - User (in fr, or Utilisateur or Utilisatrices)
Namespace 6 - File - Fichier (but now, all files will be uploaded in the common but FR have some in there + on SP it's called Archives)
Namespace 8 - MediaWiki used to hold system messages and other important content
Namespace 10 - Template
Namespace 12 - Help
Namespace 14 - Category - Catégorie

The atys/common has no ns after 15. The other 5 wikis have the common following ns:

100 - Guild
104 Events
106 Portal

The advance Search show some ns too. Here are images, to compare:

English
French
German
Russian
Spanish

EN wiki

See Wiki Technical Guide/EN ns list

But:

Namespace 4 - Ryzom Wiki and 5 Namespace 5 - Ryzom Wiki talk
Namespace 104 - Event

NS MediaWiki ->used to hold system messages and other important content (.js etc) + some page in DE
NS file -> full of jpg
NS help -> about 20p, most are obsolete (before wikis merge ?)
NS guild -> about 75p
Event ns -> about 39p

1. Talk 2. User (som ip in here) 3. User talk

4. Ryzom wiki 5. Ryzom wiki talk

6. File (it's when someone added a local description) 7. looks like empty 8. MediaWiki (some .js and .css ... is it to archive ?) 9. looks like empty

10. Template 11. Template talk 12. Help (about wiki) 13. Help talk

14. Category 15. Category talk

100. Guild 101. Guild talk

104. Event 105. Event talk

FR ns

Wiki Technical Guide/FR ns liste

see fr:Guide Technique du wiki/FR ns liste (commands are KO in here)

Namespace 4 - EncyclopAtys (canonical name: Project)
6 - File - Fichier : not empty there's a lot of files in here : Images in the File's NS on FR wiki
Namespace 100 - Guilde
Namespace 106 - Portail - Portal

DE ns

de:Technischer Wiki-Leitfaden/DE ns list

Looks like the EN, but no Event namespace, less pages and talk

Ryzom Wiki contains some doc, admin pages, Über Ryzom Wiki
File is empty
event is empty

SP ns

es:Ayuda:SP ns list

File is empty
Event is empty

RU ns

ru:Справка:RU ns list

File is empty
100 Guild empty
104 empty
from 100 to end: Russian canonical name (such \u0421\u043e\u0431\u044b\u0442\u0438\u0435) - see https://ru.wiki.ryzom.com/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=namespaces

Atys Common ns

See atys:Help:Common ns list‎ from Common ns list on atys common

As the DE/EN wikis: User (ns 2), File (ns 6), Template 10, Help (ns 12) 3p, Category (ns 14)

Namespace 4 - Ryzom Commons (ns 4, canonical name is Project)

About the Help pages

With the the wikis merge, we have now a lot of pages about the help on wikis... Lot of them are obsoletes and contradictory, and use different namespaces but can use the category:Help to to bring them together.

users

Users are common. Only the profiles are on 1 (or more) wikis. Each wiki has its DB.

More on fr:Guide Technique du wiki/Permissions

categories

Wiki codes about categories

For tree in French wiki : fr:Utilisatrice:Craftjenn/ArboCaté
on common, Heernis used <categorytree mode="all" depth="20" showcount"on" hideprefix="never">Wikipatys</categorytree> to get result: Wikipatys, Deutsch, English, Graphic Charter, Hidden categories
The code <categorytree>Foo</categorytree> on a wiki page, will show the contents of category Foo as a dynamic tree on that page.

From https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree#Usage :

let's try a all mode on Encyclopatys <categorytree mode="all" depth="20" showcount"on" hideprefix="never">Encyclopatys</categorytree>:

► Encyclopatys

nothing found

a parent mode <categorytree mode="parents" depth="20" showcount"on" hideprefix="never">Mysteries</categorytree>:

Mysteries

X-files

let's try an other <categorytree style="margin-left: 30px;" mode="all" namespaces="Talk" depth="2">Encyclopatys</categorytree>

► Encyclopatys

no pages or subcategories

<categorytree mode="all" depth="2">Root</categorytree>

Root

EncyclopAtys

Forge

Lore

WikipAtys

With mode=parents we can see all parents of a category :) But how from EN wiki get the FR/EN values ? (tried fr:CategoryName and :fr:CategoryName)
depth default is 1. 0 will give roots categories
hideroot: set this to "on" to hide the "root" node of the tree (ex: hideroot=on)

EncyclopAtys

Forge

Lore

WikipAtys

The {{#categorytree:Foo|hideroot|mode=pages}} parser function, same but with other syntax. Using the parser function syntax has the advantage that it allows you to use magic words (such {{#categorytree:{{PAGENAME}}}}), templates ({{#categorytree:{{root category}}}}) and template parameters when specifying the category to show.

care the X-files

In FR, X-files is different

Some stats and Links

See Wiki Technical Guide/Statistics on the March 5th 2020 who compares some stats about the wikis.

Wiki Technical Guide/Special Pages array with useful special pages (mainly for FR/EN/DE wikis)

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Namespaces

Here are the namespace value and content on other wikis

DE and EN wikis are close. FR is very different. Forge comes from an other wiki. And common (host files for all wikis) is very different from others (close to EN). It's historic (from merges).