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Reference text ( Maintained text, used as reference ) :
Notes: (Jenn, 2020-06-07)

Help for user about this wiki (title, comments, add image or links...) Writing Guide, Wiki Technical Guide's translation is not finished. But this page talk about translation on the wikis.

Note the language's place in the URL : for the French it start with fr https://fr.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki, the English version https://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki and all images are in common on https://atys.wiki.ryzom.com...

Update (2019/05/13): a RC channel to speak about wiki #pj-ryzom_wiki.

Thanks to not rename a page (even if the page name looks very bad) - it can break a lot of links (for ex posted on the forum + several Trad links, on other wikis) - before any rename, talk about it on the RC channel.

On this wiki

NEW:

• see the Template:TIP and see the Template:Trad and their discussion pages, who compare the 2 Templates.
• Template:Autotrad
• very handy: atys:Category:Tools_for_Translation has several arrays, with translations.

• WikiTrad-EN/Toolbars on this wiki to compare the interfaces on the 5 languages.

Thanks to add the languages translations flags at the top of the page, as translators used to do.

Be care ful: the French site has much more pages than the English one ^[1]+ very often, the FR page is much more updated.

• The Templates are quite new... so a lot of pages don't have them.
• Thanks to watch in History who was writing on the page, to compare EN/FR version of a page.
• We are trying to reduce the differences with EN/FR pages - not get more and more differences LOL

Be careful when copy/paste to an other language, specially regarding some keywords (for the Category: Catégorie for FR, Kategorie DE, Categorías SP... or in images, for ex vignette for thumb...), the place's names can be very different too, acronyms (PNJ/NPC, HRP/OCC)... We need to add several terms or the search won't be optimal. And (specially for categories) choosing a name in a foreign language can be touchy...

The common roots categories are:

• Encyclopatys : related to the actual encyclopedic wiki, powered by all the players
• Wikipatys : the wiki
• Forge : dev of the Ryzom (server side: core and clients)
• Lore : the official Atys History

Several categories "on top" are commun in all languages, better not move or even change them (keep them at the same level). Users should try to use categories as far as possible from root (each page or image can be collected using several categories), however, the 5 wikis are very different.
Help about categories at Categorization/how_to.

To create a new translation: the best is to open a new windows, in the target language, using Search in order to find some very close context with our subject (and maybe you'll find some oldier page, to add some other links or to archive) and choose a nice name for the page that you are going to create.

Signatures and talk

When adding the ~~~~ the link to your name and discussion will be on the site you commented, not the one you use usually, specially when you translate, or help other people on here (but date and hour will be formatted as in the language's wiki: May 9th or 9 Mai). Here is my tips:

1. I add the ~~~~ then start write above.
2. I Preview so ~~~~ shows in preview the 2 bad links (in red as my profile is on the French wiki, not on English or German I discuss on * usually the English wiki, or Common),
3. I copy de date and hour (in preview), paste it my comment, delete the ~~~~.
4. I have the whole code in nowiki markup, on my profile as a memo, with link to RC. So I just copy the code, paste it on the comment, before date & time, done.

It's: [https://fr.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Utilisateur:Amosys Amosys] ([https://fr.wiki.ryzom.com/w/index.php?title=Discussion_utilisateur:Amosys&action=edit&section=new talk to Amosys on wiki]) (On RC [https://chat.ryzom.com/channel/pj-ryzom_wiki pj-ryzom_wiki])

It gives : Amosys (talk to Amosys on wiki) (On RC pj-ryzom_wiki) 03:16, 9 June 2019 (CEST)

For a RC MP, use for ex: [[File:RClogo211905.png|60px|Name on RC|link=https://chat.ryzom.com/direct/Name]] it gives:

On Common

To translate the text (category description and the Summary when importing images) and names of the category on common wiki:

• default language is English - there's a lots of categories (6 wikis), better no add too much "localized indexes" in the category names on Common ^[2].
• when adding a image, in Summary we can write all text, in any language, in order to help anyone to find it on common, but finish it with the code for ex [[Category:Encyclopatys]] if the image don't contain too many French/German text ^[3].
  • if the image has a lot of German: thanks to use [[Category:EncyclopDE]], not [[Category:Encyclopatys]]. To atys:Category:EncyclopDE
  • if the image has a lot of French: thanks to use [[Category:EncyclopFR]], [[Category:Encyclopatys]]. To To atys:Category:EncyclopFR.

Here are some examples:

Code of a Category (common space names):

Code in Summary when uploading an image (common space names) on common wiki:

Comments are use full for the search

• The comment text should be in English... but several are only FR or German
• Its start with FR, as the comment is in French (thanks to add DE at 1rst word if the comment is full German)

See SOS/catImage for help about images categories.

Some useful Special pages, with several languages: Wiki Technical Guide/Special Pages.

On the forum

On forum : https://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=forum/view/1839 we have several versions :

• fr https://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/28865/1&post190024=fr#1
• and https://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/28865/1&post190024=en#1

The code to use on the official forum - all translations are in a same post: [FR] for the French version and [EN] for the english translation

How use codes for a post in several languages

Archives

Here is the code (here, a french page named pFR and an english one named pEN) :

Translating the Tribes Members Titles

in EN and FR (and using BM)

Campsite - Au camp

• Tribe Chief  : Chef (ou Cheffe)
• Tribe Outpost Officer : Officier Tribal des Avant-Postes
• Tribe Welcomer : Hôte d'Accueil
• Outlands Supplier : Fournisseur des Terres Lointaines
• Overseer : Contremaître
• Frontier Supplier : Fournisseur des Frontières
• Master Overseer : Contremaître Expert
• Ambassador : Ambassadeur
• Master Guards : Gardes puissants

Wandering the region - Se déplaçant en région

• Hunter : Chasseur
• Prospector : Prospecteur

Affiliates - Affiliés

• Scout : Eclaireur
• Journeyman : Compagnon Artisan

This page should be translated into

try to contact:

🇩🇪 German

Heernis

🇬🇧 English

--Tryroamer (talk) 20:37, 12 April 2020 (CEST)

🇫🇷 French

🇪🇸 Spanish

🇷🇺 Russian

Go to the WikiTrad it's on the French wiki (sorry, it should be on the English one), but easier for Discussions with CraftJenn, as I am French. I suggest that all translators share tips in here... CraftJenn, Ranger du Cercle du Bois d'Almati (talk) 16:51, 9 September 2018 (CEST)