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The 1st question

12:15 Moniq
What do homins think about polygamy?

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answers

15:58 Craftjenn
if all are adults, not too drunk and consenting... it's ok 😛

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16:03 Tryroamer
i do not agree, but that ofc does not matter
especially, since you are likely referring to ingame matters, not rl, at least i assume so
eh, i do correctly understand i hope: Polygamy is, in fact, meant, nor 'orgie' or whatever else?

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<--- only considered the other possibility due to 'drunken' having been brought up
and 'consenting' ... for how could polygamy legitimately take place without that ??

16:19 Heernis vs Henuk Moniq OK it is game-related... no Real Life... so i see no rules in any government of the four nations that forbid it explicit. Conclusion: Why not? If there is also social convention, I do not know. But i saw Homins who have 3 Hominas at least. So polygamy is not forbidden, but not accepted by all.

16:36 Tryroamer
as i mentioned, polygamy, not orgie being meant, i would tend to agree with your assessment, nevertheless, i see many complications hovering over the horizon if implemented.. thus my two cents of earlier on i would suggest that some thought be given to the possible complications i must, however, excuse myself, as i need to distance myself again from the keyboard, .. till later all

17:50 Zamoor
Moniq, Henuk... What about polygamie where 1 homina have 2 or more homins?
a few tribes maybe???!!!

17:53 Namcha
That would be polyandry

17:54 Zamoor
right...

17:58 Namcha
Poly, homo, ... Players do what they want between themselves
Cultural standard is on homin for one homina, but no NPC will criticize players choices cause we don't want to slip on this

18:01 Zamoor
Just by reference... this game could be go to resemble RL too much 😃

18:32 Heernis vs Henuk, répondant à Namcha (Cultural standard is on homin for one homina, but no NPC will criticize players choices cause we don't want to slip on this)
I guess it's the old path the great-great-old-homins chose. But due to the small population decimated by the Kitin invasions, it is only right that polygamy be encouraged. I'm not saying that it will change everything for the better, but that it will allow the Homin races to survive. I know that many walk in the ways of the ancients, but also want to ignite hostility between the factions again and again. I would be in favour of allowing each Homin 3 Hominas of any race in a polygamous marriage. Because it is a matter of survival. It ensures the survival and continuity of hominid races.

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The 2nd question

18:36 Moniq
I am just asking because by those rumors it seems that there is a homin who makes proposals to any homin he met, no matter if male or female 🙂

answers

18:44 Namcha
Heernis, no, there are not less homins than hominas
Kitins kill them without difference

Having said that, lore tells male/female rights weren't equal, depending of the nation.

19:13 Heernis vs Henuk
How do you know? Isn't it true, that Homins protect Hominas? In the end most Hominas survive and Homins die. What ever the history tells us. If the are no numbers written, it is a probably lie.

19:15 Namcha
Nobody protected anyone. It was a massive flee. Kitins destroyed cities, walls, houses. You cannot say there is lack of male nowadays.
And hominas have the same potential of strength than homins
Moniq : I hope this person does not harass people !

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19:21 Moniq
rumors do not say 🙂

19:21 Heernis vs Henuk
Namcha (i hope you take this not too serous. 🙂 )

Yes there was a massive flee and yes there died a lot of homins and hominas. But most things in history have to be read between the lines. Not everything is clear on Atys. There have to be census of all hominkind, then we will see who is right. 🙂

20:11 Tryoamer
a homin, a homina, a homin and a homina marry a homin and a homina, the first is Fytos, the second Matis, the third Zorai and the fourth Tryker, the two additional are Mara, the first, and Trytonist, the second, to round all off, every one of them decides to become also ranger.

unfortunately, it then turns out, that the kitins caught wind of that arrangement and declared thereupon holy war upon all of hominkind, thus to put an end to such sacrilege, so ensued the new surge of kitins upon the core and surface areas of Atys... leaving naught but underwater regions ... heretofore undeveloped for settlement ... available for escape. What a shame, that noone had in meanwhile developed a means by which to breathe or even to move underwater, let alone to dwell and normally to live there. 8( 'aus die Maus'! 8/

21:19 Dorothée, answering Moniq's 1st question
What do homins think of polyandry? 😈

21:34 Craftjenn
@Heernis You tried?

21:39 Moniq, answering Dorothee
I don't get it. My original question was serious.

21:40 Heernis vs Henuk
No i didn't try... @Craftjenn, but do I need to try to kiss a kincher if i know that it wont work? 😃

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21:59 Heernis vs Henuk
As you can see Moniq, IRL women are immediately triggered by this topic 😃

Note: for now, most answers comes from homins, not hominas...

22:08 Moniq yes, but no idea what they say

22:36 Tryoamer
ok, i apologize for not getting yet more explicite up there... i mean about complications
add to the mix i painted that the thus 'married' want to retain also their privious marital ties intact, the 4x Group and the 2x pair of wedlock tied, and that the various homin(a) belong to with each other at war enemy guilds and or civs, not to mention, that the civs and or guilds involved demand sole loyalty binding, then you start to get a feel for what complications could arise (let us not forget OP and PvP etc ties and commitments as well)
...nor should we neglect to reflect upon the attendances at mandatory yet same time occuring assemblies etc.
May the Lorists among us take note
and the RP adherents

23:04 Gorias Moniq fyros are ok with polyandry
Matis are not

23:05 Tryoamer
and what about the conflicting allegiances ?
especially during special events etc

23:07 Craftjenn, answering Gorias where can I get that? searchin both "polyandry" or "polygamy" on english wiki -> nothing found

23:08 Tryoamer
the matter seems to me to be full of potential dynamite controversy and disonance

23:11 Craftjenn Gorias are you in the Team Lore? Nothing on your RC profile... A troll ?

23:11 Gorias I am
I'm not a troll I'm prettier

female and male fyros serve in military service
they are equal in fyros culture

23:19 Moniq what you all have with polyandry?

23:21 For the Matis, females are just uterus... 23:33 Oh? Then shall we burn all males? 23:34 no ça va faire mal aux burnes 23:34 we shall burn all orskos! 23:34 sorry french joke 23:34 ^^ J'ai compris 😛 We should burn u Nave ^^ 23:35 Naveré 23:36 XD 00:41 If the number of hominas you can marry equals the number of child you can effectively bear... Henuk Al'Goy 2 mars 2020 21:30 If hominas always bear more than 1 child, then you are right 🙂 Horizon Spotters 10:20 Matis society used to be the most phallocrat, but it started to change a lot before great swarming, under the reign of Aniro III, and again after the time spent with other civilizations in the sanctuary. Fyros society is the most equal between male and female, yet not perfect otherwise we would have seen more empresses. Tryker society, despite praising freedom, is the one where family, a Dad and a Mum, is important. Among Zorai, it seems males prevail the spiritual questions

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