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What is DeepL?

According to Wikipedia, The DeepL ^[1] Translator is a machine translation service launched in August 2017.^[2]Although it has received positive press asserting that it is "more accurate" than Google Translate,^[3] backed up by their own blind studies, ^[4] no independent scientific measurements have compared the two services.^[5] DeepL converts words directly between English and ten languages: Chinese, Dutch, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Polish, Portuguese, Russian, and Spanish. Additionally, approximations of language equivalence are proposed among all of those languages, using a two-step process via an English pivot.

Ryzom and DeepL

in August 2019 ^[6], developers installed the DeepL API ^[7] to the game "Around" channel. This allows players who are not proficient in several languages to more or less understand each other. (and yes, DeepL is not perfect!)

In 2020, an interface was also developed and implemented in the "Rocket-Chat" conversation system. (https://chat.ryzom.com/)

The following paragraphs repeat and complete, totally or partially, the contents of the pages: Chat, Chat/Translation in RC, Chat/RC channel list.

Over the flag, the original sentence is displayed

In june 2020, all is translated in Around, REGION and Uni. In Game, a single UNIVERS - in RC you'll find #pub-uni-en, #pub-uni-fr, #pub-uni-de (to close the one you don't need: use the menu on the right on the channel name).

With Patch 00868 (2021 May), we can configure DeepL in game

With Patch 00905 (2022 May):

Automatic translation, by DeepL, has been activated on Team, League, Faction and Nation channels.
Translations in the Guild channel are now handled like those in the Universe channel. This means they appear on chat.ryzom.com in five separate language channels. (In a few days)

In Game Chat

Around channel: This channel displays your words to all nearby characters, within a 25 meters diameter distance. The shout command (/shout or /sh) increases this distance to 50m (and changes the text color). Conventionally, the "Around" channel is used for roleplay. The emotes are translated by the game client while conversations are translated dynamically by DeepL software.
Associated commands: The following commands have been added:

Sentences in "Around" channel preceded by the ">" character are not automatically translated.
Since Patch 00847 (Feb. 2021) the guild channel is translated

Configuration

Added by Patch 00868 (May 2021)

In game, the configuration

DeepL and Rocket Chat

ATTENTION, VERY IMPORTANT INSTRUCTIONS !!! This automatic translation via DeepL is paid for, just like the one around IG. So please, activate it only in RF rooms where it's useful, and never in Universe or faction rooms !

Images are under atys:Category:Deepl

About

Here is an image, showing 3 cases:
Dorothee has the Deepl flag
Tamarea choose to NOT displaying flags (screenshot taken by someone else, not by Tamarea => Tamarea has Deepl but don't see any flags)
Nilstilar don't have any Deepl flag, because Tamarea did not add him in the list. He can't use it for now.

On a channel, you can activate the auto-Translate: on top right, clic on the 3 vertical dots to see this menu.
3 users

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-|FR = DeepL |FRs= 4
+|FR = DeepL |FRs= 0
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-|ref= [[:fr:DeepL]]
+|ref=
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+</noinclude>
 =What is DeepL?=
 According to [[:wikipedia:DeepL Translator|Wikipedia]], The [[DeepL]] <ref>https://www.deepl.com/home</ref> <q>Translator is a machine translation service launched in August 2017.<ref> "[https://www.deepl.com/press.html Press Information]". DeepL.com. Retrieved September 1, 2019.</ref>Although it has received positive press asserting that it is "more accurate" than Google Translate,<ref name="crunch">Lardinois, Frederic (August 30, 2017). "[https://techcrunch.com/2017/08/29/deepl-schools-other-online-translators-with-clever-machine-learning/ DeepL schools other online translators with clever machine learning]". TechCrunch. Retrieved September 1, 2019.</ref> backed up by their own blind studies, <ref name="quality">"[https://www.deepl.com/quality.html Translation quality]". DeepL.com. Retrieved March 10, 2020.</ref> no independent scientific measurements have compared the two services.<ref>Benjamin, Martin. "[https://www.teachyoubackwards.com/how-to-use-google-translate/#deepl Is DeepL Better than Google Translate?]". Teach You Backwards. Retrieved December 27, 2019.</ref> DeepL converts words directly between English and ten languages: Chinese, Dutch, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Polish, Portuguese, Russian, and Spanish. Additionally, approximations of language equivalence are proposed among all of those languages, using a two-step process via an English pivot. </q>
-=Ryzom et DeepL=
+=Ryzom and [[DeepL]]=
 in August 2019 <ref>[[Patch_2019#Patch_JY_2603|patch JA 2603]]</ref>,  developers installed the [[DeepL]] API <ref>Application Programming Interface, [[:wikipedia:Application Programming Interface|Application Programming Interface]]</ref> to the game "Around" channel. This allows players who are not proficient in several languages to more or less understand each other. (and yes, DeepL is not perfect!)
-In 2020, an interface was also developed and implemented in the "Rocket-Chat" conversation system. (https://chat.ryzom.com/)
+In 2020, an interface was also developed and implemented in the "[[RC|Rocket-Chat]]" conversation system. (https://chat.ryzom.com/)
-The following paragraphs repeat and complete, totally or partially, the contents of the pages: [[Chat]], [[Chat/Traduction dans RC]], [[Chat/Liste des canaux RC]].
+The following paragraphs repeat and complete, totally or partially, the contents of the pages: [[Chat]], [[Chat/Translation in RC]], [[Chat/RC channel list]].
-==[[Chat]] En jeu==
+[[File:FR Chat Uni unique 2020-06-27.png|thumb|center|Over the flag, the original sentence is displayed]]
-; Le Canal '''Alentours''':[[File:EN_Around_emote_bilangual_ex_2019-06-15.png|300px|right|Emotes traduits entre un anglophone et un francophone]] Ce canal affiche votre texte à tous les personnages présents dans un cercle de 25 mètres autour de vous. La commande /sh (''shout'' ou crier) permet de se faire entendre jusqu'à 50 mètres. Par convention, le canal Alentours est utilisé pour le ''[[RP Généralités|RP]]'' (''roleplay'' ou jeu de rôles). Les [[emotes]] du menu '''sont traduits'''   <br />Toutes les conversations y sont traduites''' par  [[DeepL]].
+In june 2020, all is translated in Around, REGION and Uni. In Game, a single UNIVERS - in [[RC]] you'll find #pub-uni-en, #pub-uni-fr, #pub-uni-de (to close the one you don't need: use the menu on the right on the channel name).
-;Commandes Associées: Aux [[Commandes spéciales|commandes]] usuelles s'ajoutent:
+{{Clear}}
-* Les phrases dans le canal Alentours préfixées par '''<code>">"</code>''' n'y seront pas traduites.
-* Pour désactiver la traduction automatique :
-*:<code>/a setDontTranslateLangs</code> separés par  by le caractère "pipe" ('''<code>"<nowiki>|</nowiki>"</code>''').
-*:Exemple: <code>/a setDontTranslateLangs us|fr></code>
-*On ne peut pas désactiver cette fonction dans les paramètres (en tout cas pour le moment).
-== [[DeepL]] et Rocket Chat [[File:RClogo211905.png]]==
+With [[Patch 00868]] (2021 May), we can configure DeepL in game [[File:Config Lang deepl 2021-05-21.png|thumb]]
-[[file:RC-automatic translation.png|thumb|150px|right|More menu with automatic translation line]]
-<span style="color: Crimson">'''<big>ATTENTION, CONSIGNE TRÈS IMPORTANTE !!!</big> La traduction automatique via DeepL est payante, tout comme celle en alentour IG. Donc svp, activez-là uniquement dans les salons RF où ça vous est utile, et en aucun cas dans les salons Univers ou de factions ! </span>'''
-===Attribution des droits===
-*Pour pouvoir utiliser la traduction automatique vous devez en faire la demande préalable auprès d'un responsable de la [[:Category:Ryzom Team|Ryzom Team]]: [[User:Tamarea|Tamarea]], [[Utilisateur:Tykus|Tykus]] ou [[User:Ulukyn|Ulukyn]] par exemple.
-* '''Affichage des droits''': - un exemple sur cette image, qui résume 3 cas:  [[File:RC chat use who have it or not.png|400px|center|frameless]]
-** '''[[User:Dorothée|Dorothee]]''' a un tag (drapeau, étiquette, ou flag) [[DeepL]] : elle est sur la liste qui donne accès à DeepL
-** '''[[User:Tamarea|Tamarea]]''' a choisi,dans ses préférences,  de ''NE PAS'' afficher les tags, elle dispose de la fonctionnalité de traduction automatique DeepL mais '''n'affiche pas les tags'''.(capture d'écran prise par quelqu'un d'autre, et non pris par Tamarea), le tag DeepL ne saffiche pas parce que ses droits ''"d'Owner"'' l'incluent déjà.
-** '''[[User:Nilstilar|Nilstilar]]''' n'a pas de drapeau [[DeepL]], car il n'est pas encore ajouté dans la liste. Il ne peut pas l'utiliser pour le moment. (il peut y a voir un certain délai entre l'atribution des droits et l'affichage du tag)
-===Activer la traduction automatique===
-''Par défaut, [[DeepL]] n'est  activé '''sur aucun canal spécifique'''.''
-;Pour l'activer :
+With [[Patch 00905]] (2022 May):
-# ouvrir le menu "plus", en haut à droite: cliquer  sur les 3 points <code><big><big>⢰</big></big></code>,
+* Automatic translation, by DeepL, has been activated on Team, League, Faction and Nation channels.
-# cliquer sur la ligne "Traduction automatique"
+* Translations in the Guild channel are now handled like those in the Universe channel. This means they appear on chat.ryzom.com in five separate language channels. (In a few days)
-#* si cette ligne n’apparaît pas, alors que vous avez obtenu les droits:
-## se déconnecter de RC (en '''haut à gauche''', cliquer sur l'icône de  profil RC et cliquer sur '''se déconnecter'''), puis se reconnecter sur RC,
-## rafraîchir la page (et, si nécessaire, effacer le cache et les cookies)...
-#* si après un moment d'attente et rafraîchissement de la page, vous n'avez toujours pas les droits (et les autres ne voient pas le tag [[DeepL]]), contacter [[User:Tamarea|Tamarea]].
-# vous verrez qu'elle n'est pas activée par défaut - sur l'image ci dessous, elle est active.
-<gallery>
-FR RC trad menu 2020-03-26.png|'''1. En haut à droite''', cliquer les 3 points verticaux pour ouvrir ce menu.
-FR RC trad conf 2020-03-26.png|'''2.''' Pour activer [[DeepL]]: cliquer sur le bouton "Traduction automatique" - sur cette image, [[DeepL]] est actif.
-RC trad top if active on a channel 2020-03-26.png|'''3.''' Le menu en haut à droite une fois [[DeepL]] actif sur le canal: on voit une icône affichée à gauche du menu.
-RC ex 4. on a post menu to view original 2020-03-26.png|'''4.''' Pour tout message traduit, on peux voir l'original: survoler ou cliquer  pour voir le menu "<code><big>⢰</big></code>" et ce menu s'affichera.
-</gallery>
-===Traduction automatique inactive===
-Une fois qu'on a accès à la traduction automatique sur RC via [[DeepL]], ''et même si l'on n'a pas activé la traduction automatique pour tout le canal,'' on y a toujours accès pour certains posts ( messages) ponctuels.
-;En voici un exemple concret (traduire un message saisi en Russe):
+== In Game [[Chat]]==
-<gallery>
+;'''Around''' channel:[[File:EN_Around_emote_bilangual_ex_2019-06-15.png|300px|right|Translated emotes between English-speaking and French-speaking characters]] This channel displays your words to all nearby characters, within a 25 meters diameter distance. The shout command (<code>/shout</code> or <code>/sh</code>) increases this distance to 50m (and changes the text color).  Conventionally, the "Around" channel is used for [[roleplay]]. The [[Emote|emotes]]  are translated by the game client while conversations are translated dynamically by [[DeepL]] software.
-RC ex 1. russian ex 2020-03-26.png|Un message en russe (non traduit). Survoler vers sa droite pour '''voir s'afficher le menu''' du message : les 3 points verticaux
+;Associated [[Special command|commands]]: The following commands have been added:
-RC ex 2. FR trad use on a post 2020-03-26.png|Clic sur les 3 points verticaux '''''à droite du message''''': le menu du message s'ouvre, on voit "Traduire" (le message).
+* Sentences in "Around" channel preceded by the '''<code>">"</code>''' character are not automatically translated.
-RC ex 3. translated 2020-03-26.png|Le message en russe est traduit et on voit une icone "Traduction automatique de [[DeepL]]"
+* Since [[Patch 00847]] (Feb. 2021) the guild channel is translated
-RC ex 4. on a post menu to view original 2020-03-26.png|Pour tout message traduit, on peut voir l'original: cliquer ou survoler à droite les 3 points verticaux '''''à droite du message''''' et ce menu s'affichera.
+<!---- 27th June 2020: tested it's KO
-</gallery>
+* To disable automated translation:
-;Second exemple (Allemand-Français):
+*:<code>/a setDontTranslateLangs</code>followed by language codes separated by the "pipe" character('''<code>"<nowiki>|</nowiki>"</code>''').
-[[Fichier:Translated Message.png|vignette|centré|Message traduit: il est toujours possible de revenir à l'original]]
+*:Example: <code>/a setDontTranslateLangs us|fr></code>
+*This function cannot be disabled in the preferences parameters (at least at the moment). ---->
-==Voir aussi==
+=== Configuration ===
+Added by [[Patch 00868]] (May 2021)<br />
+[[File:Config Lang deepl 2021-05-21.png|thumb|center|In game, the configuration]]
+== [[DeepL]] and Rocket Chat [[File:RClogo211905.png]]==
+{{:Chat/Translation in RC}}
+==See also==
 * [[Chat]]
-* [[Chat/Traduction dans RC]]
+* [[Chat/Translation in RC]]
-* [[Chat/Liste des canaux RC]]
+* [[Chat/RC channel list]]
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